On the one hand is Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook, you know the teenager that built Facebook.
And on the other hand there is a good friend of mine, Rand Fishkin, who runs an SEO tool company called Moz.
The Moz tools you are probably aware of if you are in the United States and you have done a little bit of online marketing.
It’s a very affordable, you can call it cheap solution for basically everything.
Everything out of the box, there are some upsells there. But…
Both are business owners, business drivers.